what is interesting to me is the weekend factor. for nearly a decade, I've been going to mtgs the wkend before the start of IETF - workshops, training sessions, sidebars, RSSAC mtgs, etc. about five years ago, the -other- suite of interesting/useful meetings started occuring the weekend -after- the IETF was finished - more workshops, training sessions, interop testing, OARC meetings, IRTF etc. IETF working group meetings, per se, during the week became less interesting, since actual work occured the weekend before and the weekend after. YMMV of course. -- --bill Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise). _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf