I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft. Document: draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000-beam-10.txt Reviewer: David Black Review Date: 16 June 2008 IESG Telechat date: 19 June 2008 Summary: This draft is on the right track, but has open issues, described in the review. Comments: The authors have only partially addressed the open issues noted in the Gen-ART review of the -09 version. More work is needed: [1] The review of the -09 version stated: "Section 3.2 doesn't provide enough information to calculate a packet priority value from layer, resolution and component values. In fact the example it gives appears to be simple enough to also be an example of the component based ordering defined in Section 3.5. Section 3.2 needs to explain how the priority value is calculated and use a more complex example to illustrate the results of the calculation." In my opinion, Section 3.2, while improved, is still not clear enough to be interoperably implemented in its current form. A more complex example is now used, but the text does not state the the algorithm used to generate the priority, nor does it provide the specific algorithm for the example. The general algorithm is that the ordering is based on the triple <layer, resolution, component> and the minimum priority is 1, so, if - There are ltotal layers (layer value range is 0 to ltotal-1) - There are rtotal resolutions (resolution value range is 0 to rtotal-1) - There are ctotal components (component value range is 0 to ctotal-1) then for a triple <lval, rval, cval>, - priority = 1 + cval + (ctotal*rval) + (ctotal*rtotal*lval) and for the example where ltotal=1, rtotal=2 and ctotal=3, - priority = 1 + cval + 3*rval because lval=0 hence the ctotal*rtotal*lval term is zero (3*2*0) and hence does not contribute to the priority computation. [2] The review of the -09 version stated "Section 4.1 contains this problematic text: An initial value of mh_id MUST be selected randomly between 1 and 7 for security reasons." This has been partially addressed. While section 2.1 now requires that the initial value of mh_id always be zero, the above "problematic text" remains, and still needs to be removed from Section 4.1. In addition, Security Considerations paragraph on mh_id concludes with a rather cryptic statement that "Care should be taken to prevent implementation bugs with potential security consequences." Either more specific guidance should be given, or the entire paragraph should be removed, as mh_id does not appear to have any security value. In addition, there is a new open issue: [3] Section 7 does not appear to instruct IANA on what is to be done. It appears that IANA should add the new parameters in section 5 to the existing registration of a media type, but neither section 5 nor section 7 tells IANA what do to or which media type registration is to be modified. Nits: Reference [1] has still not been corrected. The Gen-ART review of the -09 version stated: Reference [1] should reference the Internet Draft by name. [1] Futemma, "RTP Payload Format for JPEG 2000 Video Streams", RFC XXXY, April 2007. I believe this is draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000-18.txt. That should be in the reference instead of RFC XXXY. Then add an RFC Editor note asking the RFC Editor to replace all instances of RFC XXXY with the RFC number assigned when reference [1] is published as an RFC. The version of this draft has now advanced to -19. idnits 2.08.04 flagged reference [1] as a possible problem, and was confused by reference [3]. Reference [3] is fine as-is; no change is needed. ---------------------------------------------------- David L. Black, Distinguished Engineer EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA 01748 +1 (508) 293-7953 FAX: +1 (508) 293-7786 black_david@xxxxxxx Mobile: +1 (978) 394-7754 ---------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf