Re: RFC 3484 Section 6 Rule 9

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Mark Andrews escribió:
>> Well, longest prefix match is kind of useful in some scenarios i think.
>>
>> Imagine a site that is multihomed to two ISPs and has two PA address blocks.
>>
>> Now, longest prefix match ensures that when a node of the multihomed 
>> site wants to contact any other customer of its own isps, it does 
>> perform the correct source address selection and that is likely to be 
>> critical for the communication to work, especially if the isps are doing 
>> ingress filtering (i am assuming that the intra site routing of the 
>> multihomed site will preffer the route through the ISP that owns the 
>> prefix contained in the destiantion address)
>>
>> Even though this is one case and the problem is more general, i tend to 
>> think that this is an importnat case and things would break more if this 
>> rule didn't exist
>>
>> Regards, marcelo
>>     
>
> 	Section 6 Rule 9 is DESTINATION address selection.
so, are you suggesting to keep rule 8 of source address selection 
(longest prefix match) and remove rule 9 of destiantion address 
selection (longest prefix match)?

btw, an analysis of some multihomed scenarios and the impact of longest 
prefix match can be found at 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-v6ops-addr-select-ps-06.txt.

 From the draft, it is possible to see that it helps, but not that much 
and it is probably worth having better support. But i am not sure we 
should simply remvoe it with an errata. IMHO, we should actually solve 
this problem and provide a solution for multiprefixed sites

regards, marcelo
>   It
> 	provides absolutely no help when attempting to distingish
> 	a multi-homed destination that is not with your current
> 	ISP.  It also won't help once your current ISP has more
> 	than one prefix.  It doesn't help with PI clients connected
> 	to your current ISP.
>
> 	It biases what should be a random selection.
>
> 	There is no science that says a /30 match is better than a
> 	/28 or a /8 match.
>
> 	If one really wants to have directly connected clients of
> 	your ISP match then get a appropriate feed of prefixes and
> 	use it to build appropriate tables.  We have the technology
> 	to distribute sets of prefixes.
>
> 	Just don't attempt to have longest match do the just because
> 	it can't do it except for PA address and even then only
> 	when your ISP has a single prefix.  For any other senario
> 	it is biased garbage.
>  
>   
>> Mark Andrews escribió:
>>     
>>> 	This rule should not exist for IPv4 or IPv6.  Longest match
>>> 	does not make a good sorting critera for destination address
>>> 	selection.  In fact it has the opposite effect by concentrating
>>> 	traffic on particular address rather than spreading load.
>>>
>>> 	I received a request today asking us to break up DNS RRsets
>>> 	as a workaround to the rule.    Can we please get a errata
>>> 	entry for RFC 3484 stating that this rule needs to be ignored.
>>>
>>> 	Mark
>>>   
>>>       
>>     
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