On May 22, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Bob Braden wrote: > >> >> >> Here is a concrete suggestion. >> >> We (for some definition of we) have the Internet Journal, which is >> paper. >> Publish a "Supplement of the Internet Journal," in paper, or on line, >> which is >> >> - physically published 3 times a year >> - has all of the RFC's published since then > > I meant, of course, since the last one. > The average RFC is 30 pages, and the average publication rate > is O(30) per month. That seems to work out to 3600 pages to > be published with each Internet Journal. > Or order 10^4 pages per year for the Supplement. BTW, it strikes me as interesting that in the physical archives of the IETF Trust there are zero pages of printed RFCs. There are the cut and paste-on-paper viewgraph originals from IETF-1, but no printed RFC's. Regards Marshall Regards Marshall > Bob Braden > >> - includes the level 1 RFC errata as available >> - includes other notes like RFC's that have been made obsolete, etc. >> - charge it to cover costs at least (say, $ 500 / year for a >> subscription). >> >> This would be picked up by at least some libraries, and would solve >> the "on-line is ephemera" problem. >> >> Regards >> Marshall >> >> >> >> >> >> Marshall, to your point: >> >> >> >>> It is easy to find RFC's now, but it may not be in a century. >> >>> >> >>> This may seem silly, but I think that RFCs will still >> >>> have relevance in a century and, having experience >> >>> searching for 100+ year old astronomical publications >> >>> and data, in my opinion, RFC's need to be cataloged in >> >>> libraries. >> >>> >> >>> Libraries have running code for the maintenance of >> >>> intellectual property over centuries; the IETF does not. >> >> >> >> I agree with you 100%. I think this is indeed a tangible and >> >> desirable objective. >> > >> > Indeed. And libraries, especially the subset of libraries that >> > have national archival responsibilities, do pay attention to >> > these identifiers. >> > >> > john >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IETF mailing list >> IETF@xxxxxxxx >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf