----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Smith" <paul@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Henning Schulzrinne" <hgs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "Douglas Otis" <dotis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Tony Hansen" <tony@xxxxxxx>; "SMTP Interest Group" <ietf-smtp@xxxxxxx>; "IETF General Discussion Mailing List" <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:48 AM Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-rfc2821bis: closing the implicit MX issue > Henning Schulzrinne wrote: > > > > This decision raises a somewhat larger issue, namely whether deferring > > to implementor desires is always the right thing to do. Compared to > > implementers, there are many more users and system administrators. For > > the reasons discussed earlier and alluded to below, they now lose in > > having poorer error handling and more abuse. I thought standards > > writers and implementer were supposed to serve end users (and maybe > > the large number of people having to install and manage things), not > > the other way around. Maybe this is another instance of the > > oft-bemoaned absence of operators from the IETF discussion. End users > > seem to be even more absent, even indirectly. > Agreed. I see this as a big step in the wrong direction. No one has > given a good reason for doing it other than 'its similar to what happens > in IPv4', 'it makes life easier for people with awful internal > procedures' and 'it saves us 3 lines of code in our software'. None of > those are good enough reasons IMHO, given all the reasons not to do it. > > It might end up not being a big deal except for mail server > administrators at big companies or ISPs, but it *might* be a massive > deal, and given the easy change we could make now, I think it's a big > opportunity being missed. > > I agree; this is an opportunity to clean up a obsolescent bodge and we should do just that. Tom Petch > _______________________________________________ > IETF mailing list > IETF@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf