On Feb 8, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 8 feb 2008, at 9:29, Bob Hinden wrote: > >> The budget information can be found >> at: http://iaoc.ietf.org/. In round numbers total expenses are about >> $4M, revenue is about $2.5M, and the ISOC contributes about $1.5M. >> If it wasn't for the ISOC we would have a big problem. > > So that means every meeting has to bring in $800k, which is a bit more > than the current number of attendees x the current registration fee. > > The number of attendees is slowly but steadily going down. I don't > think this translates in substantial net cost savings for the meetings > (many costs are fixed; smaller attendee population will draw fewer > hosts; hosts will pay in some relationship to meeting costs) so this > means either the fees will have to go up even further, which won't > help attendance, or the non-meeting costs the IETF incurs will have to > go down. Or the IETF will have to start charging for non-meeting services currently provided gratis to participants. These are primarily document related expenses. Regards Marshall > (I'm assuming non meeting fee fund raising is already maxed > out.) > > I suggest we start thinking about this now rather than at the point > where the IETF can't pay its bills anymore. Where do we draw the line > on meeting fee increases? Is there any way to save costs? What was the > cost structure 10 or 15 years ago when meeting attendance was much > smaller? > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf