Jim, > Your authoritarian tone is not pleasing at least how I take it. Let people vent I just hit the 'd' key and so can you. If there was authoritarian tone, it was by no means intended. For the record, I DO worry about cost of meeting fees, expensive hotels, travel, decreasing participation, etc. And yes, people need to vent. However, I think it would be good to take a little bit of time to figure out what the site is and what conditions there will be like before we pass judgment. Stephen promised to send info, Ray already updated us on the bus situation, people are looking at what restaurants possibly exist nearby, etc. Jari _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf