Re: Call for action vs. lost opportunity (Was: Re: Renumbering)

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Brian - OK, I agree that a wide range of tunneling/translation mechanisms have been considered; was the transition problem considered during the basic design?

In any event, in my opinion we don't have a fundamental level of backward compatibility that would solve the current deployment issues.

- Ralph

On Oct 6, 2007, at Oct 6, 2007,4:14 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

On 2007-10-05 09:12, Ralph Droms wrote:
Typo: should read IPv6 ~= IPv4+more_bits...
- Ralph
On Oct 4, 2007, at Oct 4, 2007,4:52 AM, Ralph Droms wrote:
Regarding transition:

On Sep 14, 2007, at Sep 14, 2007,3:43 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:


Unless I've missed something rather basic, in the case of IPv6, very little attention was paid to facilitating transition by maximizing interoperability
with the IPv4 installed base.
Dave, I have to agree with you in this regard. We may have achieved neither significant new capabilities because IPv6 ~= IPv6+more_bits, nor ease of transition because transition wasn't thoroughly evaluated early on in
the design process...

Ralph, that last assertion simply isn't true. Migration/transition/
co-existence was on the radar screen right from the start. The dual
stack model was chosen explicitly to allow for co-existence, and in
particular so that dual stack servers can serve both IPv4 and IPv6
clients, and that is running code.

There's a fundamental difficulty in having IPvX-only clients working
with IPvY-only servers except via application-level relays. It isn't
a consequence of design details of v4 and v6. I'm sure we could
have done better, but this was very definitely thought about.

    Brian

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