---- Original Message ----- From: "Clint Chaplin" <clint.chaplin@xxxxxxxxx> To: <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 1:01 AM Subject: Re: Spammers answering TMDA Queries > I believe the term is "tmda", not "tdma". > Never mind how it is spelt, what is it? Something to do with e-mail, something associated with spam, something that may or may not affect my ability to participate with the 'IETF' now or in future. But what is it? An explanation for one not familiar with MX and mail list administration would be appreciated. Tom Petch PS no need to explain SPF, DKIM etc, those have been hammered enough on this list. > TDMA is a type of cell phone technology. > > On 10/3/07, Hallam-Baker, Phillip <pbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't see a problem if we eat our own dog food. > > > > The use of tdma type tech for mailing list subscriptions has been > > considered best practice for over a decade. Personal use is nasty, brutish > > and hopefully short. > > > > Allowing unsubscribed persons to post after a tdma authentication is a > > courtesy, there is no obligation to extend it in the first place. > > > > Pooling the tdma responses across multiple ietf mailing lists is a further > > courtesy. > > > > > > There is more we can do here but no more that we should feel obliged to do > > - ecept for the fact that we are a standards organization and should eat the > > dog food. > > > > In particular, sign the messages with dkim and deploy spf. > > > > > > > > Sent from my GoodLink Wireless Handheld (www.good.com) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Thomas [mailto:mat@xxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 08:23 AM Pacific Standard Time > > To: Brian E Carpenter > > Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx > > Subject: Re: Spammers answering TMDA Queries > > > > Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > > Speaking personally, I think annual reconfirmation is quite reasonable. > > > The message sent to the user should make it clear that it is an > > > annual process. > > > > Except... the annual confirmation is probably going to get accidentally > > deleted by a lot of people because they think it's the monthly notice. > > > > If this is a real problem, wouldn't it be better to take it up with the > > mailman > > folks since I'd expect that it's not just ietf? I've been working with > > them on > > dkim related stuff and they are quite reasonable folks. Maybe they have > > some > > ideas on this front. > > > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf mailing list > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf mailing list > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > > > -- > Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin > Principal Engineer > Corporate Standardization (US) > SISA > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf