>Given that paypa1.com was the very first phishing attack I saw, and >that there was a cert... Really? It belongs to ebay. But you are quite right, getting an SSL cert is so easy these days that it's not useful for much. Maybe the green bar certs that are supposed to be harder to get will help. maybe not. R's, John _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf