Re: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?

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Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> The financial fallacy in that is failing to note that about half the
> meeting fee isn't used to fund meeting expenses, but to fund continuing
> operations of the IETF as a whole (secretariat, RFC Editor, etc.) So
> restructuring the meetings would have to be done in a way that preserves
> the meetings surplus at about the same annual total as today.

I think the IETF needs to decide what its goals are and create a funding
structure that creates the appropriate incentives to achieve those
goals.  We want to encourage participation by the best and brightest and
especially those who have time to accomplish the work.   With the cost
of attending a single working group session now in excess of $1000 when
you include travel, overnight at the hotel, plus the flat rate meeting
fee, we are discouraging participation.

I have stopped attending IETF meetings in person for a variety of
reasons.  Cost is certainly a major factor.  The amount of time I must
spend away from home and my company is another one.

Besides, why should I spend my own time and money to solve other
people's problems?

In my opinion you want to keep the cost of in person participation down
so that there aren't two classes of IETF participants, those who are
face-to-face and those who aren't.  The notion that NomCom eligibility
should be determined by those who attend meetings just doesn't make a
lot of sense for an organization that prides itself on only making
consensus decisions on mailing lists.  Instead, we should minimize the
challenges to active remote participation and find an alternative source
of funds.

One notion might be to charge for publications of Internet Drafts.  $500
for a draft name including five revisions and then $25 for each
additional revision.   The rationale is that it is the draft
publications which create work for the entire IETF and the cost of that
work should be borne by those who want to see the work accomplished.


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