Dave Cridland <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Mon Jun 18 11:42:05 2007, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> Several people consider this license insufficient to make it >> possible to >> include extracted material from RFCs into some implementations. > > Given your reading, and given that the same thing must apply to MIBs > (which are explicitly used as an example), then it seems to me that > virtually every SNMP implementation would be in violation of the > copyright license, since MIBs are very commonly extracted from RFCs, > often with errata patched in, and used as input to implementations, > either directly or indirectly (by being used in MIB compilers and > suchlike to create compilable code). > > Now, BCP78 doesn't cover third party rights - its title is pretty > clear on that - but it still includes section 7.5, at least, and more > importantly it requires that the rights you're seeking are allowed to > be granted by the IETF Trust, and the IETF Trust itself certainly > appears to be granting them, such as in the answer to Question 6 and 7 > at http://trustee.ietf.org/24.html > > Modulo a clarifying statement to the contrary from the IETF Trust, I'd > say I've been explicitly granted rights to snarf the ABNF from > anywhere I choose and slap it straight into my implementation, > including the ABNF from RFC2192bis, and supporting documents. I don't see a clear license that "explicitly" grants third parties those rights. I see some hand waving referring to past behaviour and a link to a FAQ without authorship or contact information. Given this situation, my position is that modulo a clarifying statements from the IETF Trust granting third parties the rights to extract and modify parts of RFCs, we have to assume we haven't been granted those rights. That is how copyright law works, if I understand it correctly. If the IETF Trust could publish something legally binding that covers this, that would likely solve all my concerns with this document. /Simon _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf