At Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:07:10 -0400, Brian Rosen wrote: > > Minor nit on the last part: > When the keys are randomly generated and of sufficient length, > these attacks do not obtain > > "obtain" doesn't work. Either "do not succeed" or "generally do not > succeed" or even "usually fail". Actually, I think obtain is fine (though a bit obscure) here. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/obtain 3. (intransitive): To prevail; to succeed. 4. (intransitive): To exist Even though the Pervaise confession had never come to light, no reasonable doubt could obtain; for the act in question [...] was on a par with countless other acts committed by the oligarchs, and, before them, by the capitalists. -- Jack London, The Iron Heel. The more common replacement would be "apply". -Ekr _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf