>>>>> "p" == <Pasi.Eronen@xxxxxxxxx> writes: p> Sam, p> While it is at each AD's discretion not to sponsor some p> document (and not initiate Standards Action), I don't think p> this discretion should extend to having a veto at the IESG p> table when the document and community input is considered ("if p> you make changes I don't like, I'll withdraw my sponsorship"). p> It looks like our process rules don't really cover the case of p> withdrawing sponsorship, but the existing IESG decision-making p> process already allows an AD to object to publishing a p> document, and I believe using a "sponsorship-withdrawal-veto" p> instead is inappropriate. The IESG internal process requires that anything going before the IESG have a yes vote to be approved. I'm unwilling to vote yes on this document nor am I willing to dedicate my time shepherding it through the process. I believe that especially the allocation of my time for individual submissions is entirely my decision to make. I have left open the possibility that another AD would support this work and choose to sponsor it. But yes, I believe that the consensus of the IESG is that the sponsor can remove their yes vote and that unless another sponsor steps forward, that kills a document. We had a rather long discussion about this and my understanding of the conclusion of that discussion is that the IESG should not approve a document that no one on the IESG affirmatively supports. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf