>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Bierman <ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Andy> I think the inability of the IETF to make decisions in an Andy> open, deterministic, and verifiable manner is a major flaw. I for one do not wish for deterministic decision making in the IETF. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf