I think redefining the rule would require recycling at proposed. I think it would be confusing and harmful to do so. I think removing the rule would is allowed by the process (and would require updates in referencing specs as they advance but would not break anything). I think doing so would be harmful and is not supported by consensus. I do not object to deprecating the rule although I'm not completely convinced doing so is a great idea.I think it is clearly allowed if there is consensus. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf