> Ted, jumping ahead a little bit, how much of your concern would > be eliminated if that entry in the template said "Royalty Free > and RAND" (or "RAND and Royalty Free"), rather than just RF? I > agree that "RF and totally unreasonable" is a possible case, but > am trying to understand whether we have a disconnect about the > language we have used or about some general and important > principle? A useful convention that's being used more and more is the term RANDz, which means "RAND without monetary compensation". This captures both the monetary aspect as well as the reasonableness of other terms. Of course, to avoid any uncertainty, it would be helpful to define RANDz somewhere in the IETF policy documents (RFC 3979, etc.). _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf