>>>>> "Russ" == Russ Housley <housley@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Russ> Dean: I always recuse myself from IESG evaluation of a Russ> document for which I am an author. You will find this to be Russ> the normal practice for all IESG members. Russ, Dean, Todd and others. Might I suggest that this part of this discussion has outlived its useful life on the ietf list. I'd like to thank all those who have participated for helping us understand what happened and for expressing their opinions. However, at this point, people seemed happy with taking the draft to the TLS working group. The authors asked for a week delay while they prepared a new IPR disclosure. That disclosure seems to have hit the IETF servers, so I'll touch back with the authors and then engage the TLS chairs. I'd like to suggest that discussions of what Russ should or should not have done,rehashing the facts of the situation yet again,and comments about specific legal obligations the IETF or its participants may or may not have with regard to this situation are not benefitting the ietf list. Thanks, Sam Hartman Security Area Director _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf