I just use nroff and have no trouble creating whatever succinct symbolic references I want. Donald -----Original Message----- From: John C Klensin [mailto:john-ietf@xxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:26 PM To: Sam Hartman; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: In support of symbolic references ... Second, because of the desire to create a universal naming scheme in the bibliographical libraries, xml2rfc ends up with symbolic references that look like [I-D.rfc-editor-rfc2223bis] (one of the less unattractive ones) or, potentially, [I-D.draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434-bis]. Those things cause formatting problems, violate almost every known style manual about forms for symbolic references, and so on. If our tools permitted us to use the forms that are recommended in the rest of the world, such as "[Nart07a]" for the above, it would be different. But they don't permit doing so conveniently. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf