--On Tuesday, 13 March, 2007 17:30 -0700 "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Options are not necessarily complications. > > The only point to having XER that I can see is if you intend > to allow an orderly transition from use of ASN.1 to use of > XML. Both standards do their job fine, both are somewhat more > complex than they should be. One of these choices is surplus > to requirements. > > If I am writing in any modern development language that > supports metadata such as .NET I can perform XML encoding and > decoding automatically by simply calling up an > encoder/decoder. To create the same capability in ASN.1 > requires vastly more effort. > > If we had hundreds of ASN.1 schemas that people cared about in > the IETF I might see an argument for continuing to dual stack > ASN.1 and XML indefinitely. Given where we are enabling a > phase out of ASN.1 for certain protocols makes a lot of sense. > > I don't think that this would make a lot of sense for PKIX but > certainly for SNMP and LDAP. Whether I agree with the above or not (and I think we could debate your last couple of paragraphs at great length), if the document said something like that, I'd be a lot happier. And, perhaps like some others, I'm much less concerned about the document at this point than the claims that there were no comments and/or no actionable comments. I hope this is being discussed within the IESG because it would be a pity to write up an appeal at this point --especially just before the handoff-- if they were willing to just do the right thing. That, to me, would be to pull back the approval and either rewrite the statement or tune the document a bit or both. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf