-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The 67 Attendees list dug up a paper on wireless at IETF65 http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~andreaf/downloads/ietf_measures.pdf ESP is third ranked protocol, at 10% of clients using it. That is to say, 10% of IETF attendees are using IPsec, vs 5% using SSH. The second one is "UDP" --- and I'd be curious to know if there are systems using UDP-encap even when they have a public IP. Or, as my colleagued suggested: it's Skype/SIP/etc. - -- ] Bear: "Me, I'm just the shape of a bear." | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[ ] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQEVAwUBRVjN44CLcPvd0N1lAQIHEwgAtG360bCkxyNkmlBWPS9bvmJNlKrt9Cg3 8OQtY4T1tJEn/LN+iLOo+kga2ka+ob66wpXzLlhpyEfUog1zg6rFNKCt0bsvkfyy PIH/f9XGn5p7UZh8JPU0IFOn4clYQsJRa8PJdKYDaIwlK22RW36GQpC9C267Fy7r E963GZjA2EiXXmyVf3+1cWXZyTbUEfWabVcNEpTWO+qzsbGAYlVIHMeiN+n/uqMk NzK8V0BqgvwyUSEAilK4TcdEXT2ZTTB7/bNT8bcZA4WOJV3dTFyLJBwAyXhmBHXx 4ZWglFoYFlme3J//becTzevewK+QsFYTIHzfWALgHfK85BPa/k8fsg== =IW5b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf