>>>>> "Scott" == Scott W Brim <swb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Scott> On 11/09/2006 18:43 PM, Sam Hartman allegedly wrote: >>>>>>> "Scott" == Scott W Brim <swb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> Scott> However, it is important that the IETF not *just* do Scott> protocols. The IETF needs to consider how proposed Scott> "architectures" fit in with all the other requirements on Scott> the Internet. The IETF doesn't do protocol engineering, it Scott> does Internet engineering. It is fine for other Scott> organizations (not necessarily SDOs) to do service Scott> requirements and scenarios. They can *propose* Scott> architectures. If the IETF can support those architectures Scott> in ways that are consistent with overall Internet design, Scott> then fine. Otherwise the IETF should not be restricted to Scott> just protocol extension/definition. The IETF has to think Scott> of a bigger picture. >> >> >> Completely agree. I'd rather see architectures and systems >> proposed elsewhere, reviewed by the ietf, and then us develop >> the protocols. There may be some cases where we do >> architecture work; I don't think this is one of them. Scott> Please help me figure out the essential differences between Scott> "architecture" that should be done in the IETF and Scott> "architecture" that can be done elsewhere. Scott, we discussed this in person. I think that when I say architecture that can be done elsewhere, I'm thinking of things you would call service descriptions and service requirements. Some people might also consider a document that took a technical architecture, described deployment and operational considerations for it, and described a framework for business agreements to deal with intra-domain aspects of the technology an architecture. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf