WRT ETS: 1. Architecture and service definition/requirements is better fit in ATIS, with some ITU work. 2. Refinement of requirements for definition of Internet protocols in the IETF 3. ATIS Standards/Implementation requirements to further ensure interworking/interoperability Internet Protocol expertise is clearly here in the IETF, but by the same token Service and deployed network architecture expertise is where the service providers "actively" participate, which is ATIS (and where needed the ITU). _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf