There are several important requirements that are specific to military and governmental needs that are emerging or were outside the current charter's scope. These requirements, I believe, include items such as ensured timely delivery of critical communications in an environment where security concerns (e.g., encryption) and QoS requirements must simultaneously be met. People may be considering the passing of RSVP messages over different security domains that may influence security (perhaps by aiding traffic analysis or introducing a covert channel). If you think that type of work is ill advised, for example, then your best chance of voicing that opinion is here at the IETF. The requirements aren't going away and people will be acting on them the best way they know how. Your best opportunity to bring the tradeoffs to light is here at the IETF. In my experience, the ITU is working on a Next Generation Network, with an IMS type set of assumptions. This doesn't necessarily fit military or government networks. While I am in favor of working with the ITU, I think it would be a mistake to shut this working group down. Kimberly _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf