>>>>> "Robert" == Robert Sayre <rsayre@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Robert> OK. I want to write a document that makes MTI a Robert> non-requirement for HTTP1.1-based protocols, because I Robert> believe that is the consensus in the HTTP community. How Robert> do I get that done? You start by writing a draft. It would need to be targeted at a BCP. You ask people to discuss your draft. Get consensus in the HTTP community. Then, try and get broader discussion. Eventually, if you get enough support, ask an apps or security AD to sponsor the document. There are some tricky issues surrounding internal IESG process because currently, it takes at least one person who believes a document is a good idea to bring it before the IESG. However if you get sufficient IETF consensus that it is clear the document needs to be considered we'll find a way to do that. Now, I do think you will be fighting an up-hill battle. I strongly disagree with what you are trying to do. A lot of other people do to; we will all try and build a consensus against you. However, I at least, and I think everyone on the IESG will strongly support your ability to try and build a consensus and to make sure that your ideas and drafts are given fair consideration. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf