>>>>> "Joel" == Joel M Halpern <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Joel> After re-read Brian's draft, RFC 3683, RFC 3934, and the Joel> relevant portions of RFC2418 I support the IESG/ADs ability Joel> to make longer than 30-day suspensions and to engage in Joel> alternate methods of mailing list control, as described in Joel> 2418. I agree that the IESG having only the option of 1 Joel> year suspension, as required by RFC 3683, is unduly Joel> restrictive, does not help us, and should be rescinded. If Joel> 3683 were rescinded without explicitly restoring the ability Joel> to make longer suspensions, then we would have to explain Joel> what other courses of action we did intend to have Joel> available. Hypothetically, there might be some better Joel> alternative, so I am not coupling my response to the two Joel> questions. To clarify, I have not issued the last call yet, I was just forwarding David's discuss comment to the appropriate list and letting people know how I plan to proceed. There's no need to re-respond to the LC when it does come out though. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf