Who filed the complaints? if you are accusing me of something I have the right to know of what I am accused and by whom. Todd Glassey ----- Original Message ----- From: "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "todd glassey" <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <> Cc: <nea@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [Nea] WG Review: Network Endpoint Assessment (nea) > Todd, > > I've received several complains from people that think that you are crossing > the limit again and being off-topic with this thread and I seriously agree > with them. > > Consequently I warn you. If you keep going on this, I will apply a new ban > (two weeks, as it will be your second one in a very short period of time). > > Regards, > Jordi, acting as IETF Sergeant-at-arms > > > > > > De: todd glassey <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Responder a: <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> > > Fecha: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:37:49 -0700 > > Para: Theodore Tso <tytso@xxxxxxx> > > CC: "nea@xxxxxxxx" <nea@xxxxxxxx>, <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > > Asunto: Re: [Nea] WG Review: Network Endpoint Assessment (nea) > > > > Hey Ted - the more I thought about this post of yours the more it annoyed > > me. You see - when a WG chair doesn't want someone saying something in their > > WG and they control the number of players in that WG, they will always > > control the consensus such as it is. > > > > The point is that there is no where to permanently register a dissenting > > opinion in an effort or IETF program now that you claim that the charter for > > the IETF@xxxxxxxx mailing list is restricted. > > > > The IETF needs IMHO one general list for everything that doesn't fall under > > the rubric/charter/umbrella of some WG and their list, and personally after > > NETWORK was shutdown I thought that this was it. > > > > Todd Glassey > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Theodore Tso" <tytso@xxxxxxx> > > To: "todd glassey" <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Cc: <nea@xxxxxxxx>; <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 3:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [Nea] WG Review: Network Endpoint Assessment (nea) > > > > > >> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 02:39:46PM -0700, todd glassey wrote: > >>> So then Ted are you formally saying that it is inappropriate to discuss > > IETF > >>> operations or its processes on the IETF@xxxxxxxx mailing list? > >> > >> If you have a specific and actionable suggestion regarding IETF > >> direction, policy, meetings, and procedures, where there is not a more > >> appropriate e-mail venue (such as the IPR wg list), then it is > >> certainly, appropriate for the IETF list. > >> > >> Your recent postings, alas, have not met this test. > >> > >>> The problem with the IPR working group is simply that Harald kicks > > people > >>> off for disagreeing with him or his very limited charter. He doesn't > > want to > >>> hear about expanding the charter or how these other issues fit into the > > IPR > >>> Working Group and in doing so he is violating my and others > > participatory > >>> rights as well as our First Amendment rights I believe too. > >> > >> First Amendment rights only apply when the US Government restricts > >> speech. It does not apply anywhere else. In general, you have been > >> making various legal claims without being a lawyer, and fairly wild > >> ones which make it very clear that you don't know what you are talking > >> about. For what it's worth, be advised that I know of know legally > >> enforceable "right" that you might have towards participating in any > >> IETF forum, and certainly if you persist in sounding like someone who > >> does not know what they are talking about, no one is required to > >> listen to you, either --- and more and more people may in fact decide > >> that it is wise for them to exercise their right to ignore you. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> - Ted > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf mailing list > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > ********************************************** > The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org > > Bye 6Bone. Hi, IPv6 ! > http://www.ipv6day.org > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. > > > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf