--On Wednesday, 27 September, 2006 06:49 -0700 Dave Crocker <dhc2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Fred Baker wrote: >>> Sorry, probably that's all obvious, but where is ["domain >>> suffix"] defined ? >> >> At the Verisign site. It is the new-speak for use when all us >> ancient geeky types would prefer "TLD". > > > Not quite. A TLD is the right most (visible) field, like com, > net, my or us, whereas a "suffix" is typically longer, > constituting an "organizationl" base domain name string, like > example.com, or mtview.ca.us. Dave, unfortunately, if "suffix" is formally defined, I haven't been able to find it. And it has been relatively common practice among registrars, registries, and other participants in "the domain name market" to use "suffix" as a synonym for TLD, as Fred suggests. That terminology follows the practice in a number of operating systems of referring to the second part of a two-part file name as a "suffix". It is, IMO, just not acceptable for a standards-track document to leave the interpretation of terms like "suffix" and "item" up to the imagination of the reader when their definitions are key to the implementation of the specification. > Hence: > > Stig Venaas wrote: > > It's what a client might add to it's hostname to form an > FQDN. > > is a particularly practical way of putting it. Then that definition belongs in the specification. Moreover, IMO, the authors of the specification should work with DNSext and/or DNSops to determine whether there is other terminology that might be more established and/or more clear and then use it. I've recently been reminded that the DHC charter requires precisely that type of check and approval; I have reason to believe that the charter requirement was not followed in this case. To the extent to which a WG Charter is a contract between the WG and the community, this particular WG has apparently broken that contract. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf