the pattern on this list (was: Re: Last Call: 'Progressive Posting Rights Supsensions' to BCP (draft-carpenter-rescind-3683))

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The pattern on this list is that folks will endlessly respond to any
sort of critical statement -- no matter that it has no visible support -- or any sort of assertion of authority, rather than pursue constructive dialogue about making changes and reaching consensus on them.

More generally, the pattern on this list (and many other lists) is that some number of folks will respond to any statement which seems incorrect, and will attempt to refute such statements by any means that requires minimal effort, whether or not either the original statement or the refutation is convincing.

Basically, email conversations encourage quick responses even in cases where quick responses are not useful. If one takes extra time to study the issue and form a more useful response, e.g. one that is more convincing or one that might further consensus, one risks that the list will have already formed an opinion on the issue and the opportunity for the response to be useful will have passed.

In other words, this list prefers to discuss process rather than perform useful work.

Process issues are harder to resolve than technical issues, because it is often (not always) relatively easy to determine the degree to which a technical statement is valid without time-consuming testing and measurement, whereas for process issues we really need to run experiments that last for months or years to know how well a change might work.

Given the pattern stated above, it follows that process discussions will take more time to reach closure - or continue indefinitely - because there's inherently more speculation on process questions.

Hence, my focus is entirely upon anything that will place less load on
the IESG, and therefore:

Not that placing a lighter load on the IESG is a bad thing, but you said "Hence" and I don't see how one follows from the other.

p.s. My conclusion from the above is that we need a better medium for conducting process discussions over the network, or better tools for conducting discussions over email. But of course that's a research topic and therefore this message is unlikely to be persuasive.

Keith


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