to expand on John's ps for those of you who were not involved or who have forgotten the details the note the IESG sent about their review of the ISD idea can be found at http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk/msg01076.html but the feeling that the WG got from the IESG review is better viewed at: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk/msg01067.html where an IESG member said "The IESG is not at all sure that the ISD proposal is a good idea. We'd think it reasonable if newtrk decided not to follow it any more." the IESG member then goes on to say that if the WG decided to continue it would be a hard row to hoe It's not hard to see why the newtrk chair (me) decided that newtrk had no real future unless we happend to come up with something that the IESG liked (without the IESG members providing much help figuring out what they might like) in all the newtrk experience was not the highpoint of my IETF experience (I'm sure that some of the IESG members at the time would agree but for quite different reasons) Scott _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf