Pekka - the problem with experimenting is that this is not design of a protocol. Its an organizational workflow and event process and its constrained in the world by laws. Its also required to be fair and open - not some of the time but all of it. Unfortunately this is one of those times when Technology is not the answer - but rather a reliable and complete organizational process model is. Todd Glassey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pekka Savola" <pekkas@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:41 PM Subject: Re: IESG response and questions to the normative reference experiment (draft-klensin-norm-ref-01.txt) > On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > The experiment is composed of two parts. The first part allows > > approved Internet Drafts to reference RFCs at a lower level of > > maturity, provided that a note explaining the reference is added. One > > way of looking at this is that it relaxes the requirements for > > normative downreferences in RFC 3967. The IESG believes that there is > > sufficient support for this part of the experiment that simply writing > > a BCP is a better approach than running an experiment. > ... > > So, in conclusion, the IESG seeks comments on whether there is > > community interest in turning the first part of this experiment into a > > BCP. > > I do not agree with the assessment that there is community consensus > to turn this to BCP right out. > > While some community members expressed their opinion that downref > rules should be abolished completely, that was not the subject of > draft-klensin-norm-ref Last Call. I would personally be opposed to > creating such a BCP (instead of building experience through experiment > first). > > -- > Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the > Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." > Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf