This seems to be on the IETF NOMCOM web page but I do not see it in the ietf@xxxxxxxx archives. I suggest that given the unique importance of this NOMCOM cycle that a fuller explanation is in order. First .. the instant there was a problem the IETF community should have been notified in full on this list. Second ...a complete explanation of why this go screwed up should have been posted to the community. Third .. the IETF community AS A WHOLE should have been consulted as to possible remedies to this "problem" etc. Consultations to the IESG and IAB are not sufficient on matters of such gravity. ********************* From: Andrew Lange <andrew.lange@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: IETF Announcement Date: August 30, 2006 Subject: NomCom 2006/07: Selection Process Reset A few members of the community have expressed concern over two issues with the selection process for this year's NomCom. First: The list of volunteers was published later than recommended by RFC 3777. This happened because, after the nominations period closed, there was some dispute on the eligibility of a number of NomCom volunteers. They were not on the secretariat's list, but they had attended the requisite number of IETF's. I chose to provide the secretariat some time to look into their eligibility because I was concerned about (in no particular order): 1) Disenfranchisement. I wanted to be sure that every voice that was willing to be heard, was heard. I didn't want an administrative snafu to prevent someone who wanted to from serving. 2) Representation. In order to ensure that the NomCom is representative of the community we need the largest possible body of eligible individuals. I believe that these are fundamental to the entire process of the IETF and NomCom. This resulted in the list being sent to the secretariat later than I would have liked, and the message then got hung up in the secretariat's queue. The selection is still deterministic, because the list ordering algorithm used (alpha by first name) is deterministic. However, since the list was published late, the appearance is not ideal. Second: A sitting member of the IAB's name appeared on the candidate list. According to 3777, section 15, sitting IAB, IESG and ISOC members are not eligible to serve on the Nomcom. This was an oversight on my part. Ordering in the list does matter for the selection process. Although this person was not selected to serve, and the harm done is minimal, it is important that the IETF follow our own processes as closely as possible. For these reasons, and after consultation with members of the IAB, IESG and ISOC, I have decided that to remove any doubt from the proceedings we must re-run the selection algorithm with new seed information. This is unfair to the people who volunteered for NomCom and are the backbone of the process. These people rightfully believed that they were or were not selected, and everyone selected was preparing to serve. To the volunteers: Thank you for volunteering, for your patience and understanding. I apologize for any inconvenience this reset may cause. In order to close this issue quickly, the same stocks and procedure will be used as last time, but the trading date will be drawn from the September 1, 2006 Wall Street Journal which reports the the sales figures from the previous trading day - August 31, 2006. The list we will use is the same as before, but with the IAB member's name removed. The list will be sent in a separate mail. Thank you. Andrew Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:5651(at)neustarlab.biz PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 <mailto:richard(at)shockey.us> <mailto:richard.shockey(at)neustar.biz> _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf