I want to ask some questions about the 3rd parties who are providing the IETF's WG's with their Mailing List services... (This posting is appropriate to both lists since the Mailing List Archive represents a considerable amount of the IETF IP that it claims it is controlling here in IPR). So... about that IP and its management: 1) Are there contracts between the IETF and the Mailing List providers with a SLA for their services? 1a) If so how was this setup; who reviews these contracts; and what is in them? 1b) How is oversight for the list and its publications done? 2) What are the email and standards process retention records 2a) are there setup requirements for email??? - for example: reverse address resolution as a basic authentication for submissions? 3) What constitutes those materials which are subject to Retention. 4) Is there a standard set of List Participation Rules for the IETF and for specific lists? 4a) who is responsible for the Stakeholder Disclosure and how is it accomplished and documented? 5) When participation in List Processes is changed by the IETF or the List Provider 5a) who is responsible for the Stakeholder Disclosure and how is it accomplished and documented? Todd Glassey _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf