Meetings cost a lot of IETF money and some times that cost doesn't allow to provide the revenues to sustain IETF. That's why we need to plan ahead and as cheap/convenient as possible. This meeting has been an exception because we even got money to come here. Some other meetings venues, often only un NA, don't charge for the meeting rooms. Also in NA may be we pay more for the food, because breakfast is not included in the hotel guest room cost, while in other locations is included and thus IETF doesn't to pay for that. So at the end ... is not so easy as it may seem ! Also we need to rely as much as possible, if available, in local volunteer people willing to help even in the negotiations. That can save money and I know very well an example of a failed situation because the local volunteer was ignored, which we should avoid repeating in the future :-( Saludos, Jordi > De: Pekka Savola <pekkas@xxxxxxxxxx> > Responder a: <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> > Fecha: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 04:56:15 +0300 (EEST) > Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > CC: <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Asunto: Re: Meetings in other regions > > On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >> Just to give some extra *valuable* info about my comment in the plenary. >> 1) Meetings cost money. Doing meetings in Latin America/Caribbean and >> Africa, will save a lot of cost to IETF as an organization. > .... >> 5) There have been already some offers to sponsor meetings there (even if I >> believe the sponsorship should be changed from what we have now, but this is >> a different topic). > > No doubt some parts of such a meeting cost would be cheaper. > Actually meetings don't "cost" IETF money though, as Ray's slides > showed, meeting revenues are higher expenses. Perhaps the bottom line > (facilities cost, food/beverages, sponsorship, hosting expenses, > network connectivity, etc.) has not been significantly different from > a more traditional and less risky location or logistics haven't worked > out. > > Personally, I have no particular desire to meet in Africa or Latin > America/Caribbean but if the IAOC feels that makes a significant > difference financially I'd have no problem with it. They've been > chosen to make that call so that we don't need to worry about it. > > -- > Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the > Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." > Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ********************************************** The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org Bye 6Bone. Hi, IPv6 ! http://www.ipv6day.org This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf