I don't think the IESg intended to imply that the IETF does not care about human rights. The IETF does have its own process rules intended to insure fairness, and section 6.5.3 of RFC 2026 provides relief in cases where those rules are inadequate. However the IESG at least believes that while the spirit of the UDHR applies to the IETF, the letter of the law does not. In other words, I personally believe it would have been more reasonable for Jefsey to complain that the process was not fair using the UDHR as a example of fairness rather than to directly refer to the UDHR. It is my personal opinion that Jefsey was trying to be legalistic, and the IESG was legalistic in its response. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf