Re: IESG Statement on disruptive posting

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At 09:35 17/02/2006, IETF Chair wrote:
The IESG today makes the following statement, but will welcome
community feedback on it.

Dear Brian,
Comments embedded.

According to RFC 2418 as updated by RFC 3934, WG chairs have
the power to suspend disruptive posters on WG mailing lists for
periods of 30 days. However, this power is not documented
for the moderators or maintainers of IETF mailing lists that
are not WG mailing lists.

There is a need for a definition of who is what. Typically a list may have several moderators ignored by its members.

 In the absence of a BCP or
RFC 3933 procedure to cover this case, and as part of its
responsibility under RFC 2026 to organize and manage the
Internet Standards process, the IESG has decided as follows:

The administrators of such lists are authorized to suspend disruptive
posters for periods of not more than 30 days, typically after one or
more explicit and public warnings, and consultation with an Area Director.

I understand the lack of definition of the Area. I suggest that decisions name the consulted Area Director. This decision is not complete. It should define who are to be on the appeal cycle.

Administrators may also follow the moderation guidelines at
http://www.ietf.org/IESG/STATEMENTS/moderated-lists.txt

The list of IETF mailing lists that are not WG mailing lists
is maintained at https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/nwg_list.cgi
where the administrators are listed.

Is it for a reason that you use "administrator" here and "moderators or maintainers" up there? This is a formal delegation of authority. A formal decision of the IESG to initially accept a non-WG list should be issued. This also means that when the purpose descirbed in the nwg_list is deprecated, the list loses its privileges without other decision.

I hope this helps.
jfc




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