>This statement, "The Wyndham is less than a ten minute walk from the >Hilton Anatole." is a bit odd -- at least Maporama prints out the >distance as 22.7 kilometers, 16 mins with a car. Did I do something >wrong? Whassa matter, 23 km is too far to walk? Wimp. Visiting Dallas without a car is like visiting Nome without a parka. It just isn't done. I've heard reports of police stopping people for suspicious behavior, with the behavior being that they were walking. Rental cars are cheap. I found one for $17/day at the airport. Since a taxi from the airport to the hotel is about $35 each way, a car is basically the same price and it gives you the option of leaving the hotel. Google Maps has an excellent view of the area around the hotel, on which you can zoom way in and see the individual cars in the parking lot. You won't need a parka, but if you plan to do much walking, you may need a gas mask. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=2201+N+Stemmons+Freeway,+Dallas,+TX&btnG=Search&t=h&ll=32.801182,-96.827209&spn=0.012193,0.021393&t=h There are a lot of hotels in the area other than the two on the IETF web site, easily found through services like Orbitz and Expedia, or by looking at the satellite map and observing all the swimmming pools, each of which belongs to a hotel or motel, then clicking Find Businesses, and tell it you want hotels: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&q=hotel&near=2201+N+Stemmons+Freeway,+Dallas,+TX&btnG=Search&ll=32.801182,-96.827209&spn=0.012193,0.014398&t=h I'm staying at the Marriott Fairfield Inn down the street, for $99/night which is supposed to include breakfast and WiFi. Orbitz wanted me to prepay but I got the same price non-prepay at marriott.com. The Wyndam is actually about two blocks south of the Anatole, inside the bend of the creek. Google says it's 33 seconds away by car. There doesn't appear to be anywhere to eat nearby other than the hotel restaurants, so you're right, if you don't want to starve, you need a taxi, a car, or a friend with one. R's, John _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf