> From: "william(at)elan.net" <william@xxxxxxxx> > Free speech is at the core of discussions at IETF and those > representing minority positions should not be prevented from > expressing it OK, I'll bite. How do you reconcile this principle with defending someone who has tried to get people penalized for saying what they think? It seems to me that there's a logical contradiction there: Jefsey gets to say whatever he wants, but others can't? I refer you to the most interesting: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.ltru/1033 especially where it says things like "Reuters, my employer, received the following message today" and "'We will contact tomorrow the Reuters legal department in Paris we will then copy and ask an acknowledgment from.'" (And anyone who thinks that message to Reuters was not an attempt to create trouble for someone with their employer is being deliberately obtuse.) Noel PS: The IETF is *not* here to provide free speech. It's here to write protocols. Speech is subsidiary to that goal. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf