|> -----Original Message----- |> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] |> On Behalf Of Harald Tveit Alvestrand |> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:10 AM |> To: Jeroen Massar; ietf@xxxxxxxx |> Subject: Re: Proposal for keeping "free speech" but |> limitting the nuisance to the working group (Was: John Cowan |> supports 3683 PR-action against Jefsey Morfin) |> |> |> |> --On 24. januar 2006 20:46 +0100 Jeroen Massar |> <jeroen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: |> |> > My proposal to solve this issue but keeping everybody happy: |> > |> > Two mailinglists: <wg>@ietf.org + full.<wg>@ietf.org |> > |> > full.<wg>@ is completely open, anybody can post anything they want |> > though hopefully on topic on the subject of the |> workinggroup and of |> > course based on the source address having a subscription |> *1 full.<wg>@ |> > is subscribed to <wg>@ thus full.wg gets everything preserving, at |> > least parts, of the freedom of speech that is wanted and for the |> > people who want to read a lot of mail everyday. |> |> In fact this has been implemented at least once that I know |> of - on the DNSO GA mailing list. The "full" version had |> relatively few subscribers. |> |> You can find the archives of that experiment at |> <http://www.dnso.org/dnso/gaarchives.html> - it's probably |> difficult to guess from the archives whether it was |> successful; better ask someone who was there at a time |> whether they think it worked. <snip> I was a subscriber to both of the DNSO GA mailing lists and I do think the experiment worked for the most part. I've seen this a few times and it does take a load of the main list but there are dangers in the "full" list becoming a dumping ground for garbage. Both lists need dedicated people to keep them functioning correctly. It all boils down to how much traffic and noise individuals can handle. It appears there are large numbers of participants who need to be sheltered a little more than others to retain their participation, not a bad thing, just a fact. Anything that can be done to improve participation is a good thing. Darryl (Dassa) Lynch PS...I've known Jefsey online since those early DNSO and IDNO days and whilst I don't always agree with him I respect his right to opinions. I haven't followed his postings to other lists but haven't seen anything here I object to with regard to posting rights. I wouldn't like to see a blanket ban placed on his postings so a "full" list experiment would be a preference for me. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf