Marshall's not just some person with a random opinion, but the ombudsman for the IETF list. And so he speaks with some authority. Also, he doesn't come to rash conclusions, and so I for one value his considered opinion. And that's why I prodded him for more. And I'm more enlightened because of it. Eliot _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf