Robert Sayre writes: > I suspect the IESG will find that the folks actually trying to get > work done in the presence of JFC's emails all feel the same way. Most > of the objections seem to be coming from people concerned with > designing the perfect bureaucratic process. In any WG, there are > implementers whose support is valuable. The rest of the participants > are valuable when they fix bugs. JFC doesn't seem to fix many bugs, > and drives implementers away in droves, from what I can see. Which implementers are those? Implementers don't spend their time jabbering on discussion groups; they are too busy implementing. Analyze, specific, code, test, release. No need for chewing the fat on a mailing list in that process. And there are only so many hours in a day, so one can spend them doing things or spend them talking about doing things, but it's hard to manage both. > It has been suggested that I be placed under RFC 3683 sanctions in the > past, though I suppose the offending messages have always been in > response to misconduct (not a justification). I don't think the IETF > is in any danger of developing a trigger finger here. If all the time spent discussing this most useless of RFCs were dedicated to actually addressing real problems, what might be accomplished? _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf