Randy, Nosey, aren't we? :-) If you must know, let's see: one grandfather worked in a machine shop during WWII, retired in the late 50s; the other was in the Army for WWI and a farmer, sawyer, moon-shiner and road worker the rest of his life (being a farmer isn't a living, it's a hobby). I doubt ASCII figured much into either of their lives. ASCII isn't good enough for me, but PDF is useful where the problem is really bad. Between them (counting PS as a variation of PDF - especially since I have to convert PS to PDF to read it) they are what there is. I don't even pretend to know what will be good for my own grandchildren because - so far - I don't even know that I will ever have any. My point in making a terse response was that all that was asked for was objections. Sometimes, reasons are neither asked for nor needed. I suspect that - now that you know the reasons - you might agree that this was one of those times... -- Eric --> -----Original Message----- --> From: Randy.Dunlap [mailto:rdunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxx] --> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:21 PM --> To: Gray, Eric --> Cc: 'Sandy Wills'; Ken Raeburn; IETF General Discussion Mailing List --> Subject: RE: objection to proposed change to "consensus" --> --> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Gray, Eric wrote: --> --> > --> "I think we have reached substantial agreement on --> the following --> > --> statement: ASCII text was good enough for my --> Grandfather, and it's --> > --> going to be good enough for my grandchildren. Please --> reply to this --> > --> CfC if you object." --> --> IMO an objection should be required to also have an explanation. --> --> > I object. --> --> Why? to which parts? the grandfather/grandchildren? --> --> -- --> ~Randy --> _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf