> > > They seem to have it in place of the word "Neustar".... CNRI > > > used to have their name there, and no logo. CNRI's had its > > > name there at least since 1996, so it's kind of traditional > > > to name the operator. > > It's traditional, and I think fair. I'll ask the IAD to see if > > we can get the scale adjusted. > Well, being very reluctant to get the IETF involved with > advertising any for-profit entity, I'm not sure it is fair. I agree and in fact would extend this to include non-profit entities not directly involved in standards work. > More important, I'd argue that the "traditional" part is > something we just got ourselves out of at great pain. The CNRI/ > Foretec logo belonged there as part of the general notion that > the secretariat was something that CNRI was supplying to the > IETF, not a set of services for which the IETF was contracting. > It went along with the notion of the secretariat being "hosted" > somewhere, rather than being an contractual activity for which > the IETF was paying. Making that distinction, and obtaining the > control it implies, was arguably a significant part of the > motivation for the IASA. Exactly so. The type of underlying relationship we have has changed (hopefully for the better) and that argues strongly for a break with past precedents. > In the present environment, there is, IMO, a significantly > stronger argument for adding logos for every company that is > supporting the IETF via significant earmarked contributions to > ISOC than there is for adding a logo for Neustar or any other > entity that is, in theory at least, providing a service to the > IETF for which the IETF/IASA are paying full value. I don't > think we want all of those other logos either, and that suggests > that the home page should display only the IETF logo and perhaps > the ISOC one, but not those of any contractors the IASA should > happen to decide to hire. Complete agreement here. Ned _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf