Yaakov Stein wrote: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ash-alt-formats-00.txt Yes, it introduces at least five surprising and new concepts: 1: "rough consensus" is determined by taking 1000 default YES- opinions, and then consider up to 20 explicit objections as irrelevant. 2: Folks who can't read MS Word documents are also irrelevant. It's the "most 'standard' document exchange language on the Internet". (Actually all its versions are from the people who invented the Internet, please don't forget to submit an IPR note). 3: Discussing MS Word and empty security considerations are no contradiction. Not mentioning RFC 3285 at all is no issue. 4: An enumeration of "virtually all other SDOs" consisting of "ITU-T, MFA, and many other SDOs" confirms again the "clear consensus" already established in point 1. 5: Empty informative references are a good replacement for any IANA considerations. A normative 2119 reference without (?) using any 2119 keyword at all might be also new. OTOH the draft talks about 3933 without reference, For the statement that "many contributors to the thread" suggested MS Word among other additional formats I must have missed many articles in the thread. -- _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf