Re: The rights of email senders and IETF rough consensus

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wayne writes:

> The definition of "unacceptably high false positive rate" can *only*
> be defined by the receiver of the email.

It's difficult to do that if the intended receiver of the e-mail never
sees the e-mails that are rejected.  The false-positive rate will then
appear to be perpetually zero to the receiver, even if every incoming
e-mail is being discarded.

> In the case of spam filtering, it is important to remember that domain
> names are cheap.  There are companies out there that will host your
> domain name and deal with your email for you.  You can access email
> for your domain either via pop/imap, webmail, or forwarding.

Some domain owners run their own e-mail servers.  POP/IMAP, webmail,
forwarding, and the like do not offer the same degree of control as an
independent e-mail server, and they don't create as professional an
impression.

> Exactly.  And that goes for spam filters, firewalls, restricted
> mailing lists, and whatever.  If the sender doesn't have any rights to
> contact the receiver (which usually means a contract), then what they
> want is irrelevant.

Explain postal mail, then.  Explain telephones.

> Letting people without standing have a say is a huge problem.

What is "standing"?

> You cannot let people in Iran or the US decided whether a website in
> Germany can publish information that they don't like.

Should people in Iran or the US decide whether recipients in Germany
should be allowed to receive e-mail from China?




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