Pro SPAM WG: How security could benefit from high volume spam

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A WG?

Karin and me are interested.

JFC (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
At 23:10 14/12/2005, Hadmut Danisch wrote:

On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 04:46:42PM +0100, Frank Ellermann wrote:
>
> The best way to hide a signal is noise, is that's your idea ?
> Makes sense from my POV.


Not necessarily the _best_ way, but one that works under many
circumstances.
Some questions are:
How do we deal with the total surveillance?
Do anti-spam measures make surveillance easier?

No, I dont want to bash the one and only root again, but never did I
receive any SPAM an my peter@xxxxxxxx address.

This too could improve our position. Which root does the guy use - or
has he simply freaked his /etc/hosts?

Hadmut, I agree with your idea and I switched my spam filter off from all
my GMX mail accounts. They are worthless anyhow, because I permanently
have to read the spam folder to find lost emails. I still have to fight
sorbs, because they dont even accept my own emails from my host
echnaton.serveftp.com wich has a dynamic ip.



Hadmut,
not much success with your suggestion! Too much European centric at the moment. Your proposition is of real interest as part of a picture to study the noise as a general protection (conflicting information, spam, revamping web sites 1000 times a day, meta-spam, tags, EUCD, civilrights protection, bandwidth cost, site legal registration, multiligualism, debate orientation, etc.). The French law related debate make it very interesting, and important, however too complex for current users at this time. This fits the interests I have in the emergence of an "over the ISO layers" Internet through a grassroots process. How to use the Internet? But the IAB discuss list leads to nothing.

The French law made me move the sources from IASON

http://iason.site.voila.fr/
http://www.kokoom.com/iason/

to sourceforge. I dont want to fight the music industry with a law I dont
even understand. IASON has nothing to do with music but it has to do with
copyright.


Why not to try to shape a WG Charter on this? I do not believe the IESG is able to follow. But when I see all the ICANN, IETF, Unicode, etc. meetings, publications, etc. etc. about "internationalization", partly to oppose my long enough opposition which permitted me to reach Tunis. One could expect that Brussels could be interested at the end of the day. And if the IESG does not follow, we will have made our duty, before going elsewhere? I do not think that the balkanization they impose on us is a good thing.

jfc


Karin and me helped building two balkan DNS roots. Why not do something
serious now :)

Cheers
Peter and Karin


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