I find this whole discussion to be nothing but an attempt by some to push their personal political views and preferences down the throats of everyone else. I don't think there should be any political preconditions on the IETF venue. If we are going to start requiring that the host country be governed in accordance to our own political views, I have quite a few preconditions I could offer, but they're quite different from the ones Avri offered. Further, if we're going to select host countries based on how convenient or inconvenient it is to enter that country, the preference should be weighted by the number of attendees (or even better, by the number of active contributors), so that we don't eliminate venues which are convenient to the many but inconvenient to the few. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf