On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, James Seng wrote: > I am confused. Why is this (ie, public-root.net ><http://public-root.net>operation) of any concern to IETF? > >Even if this happens on "root-server.net <http://root-server.net>", the >appropriate forum is to bring it to ICANN/IANA. New rules of proceedure covering disclosure. The Public-Root has done more in it's troubles to polarize opinion, and that is a good thing. cheers joe Joe Baptista, Official Public-Root Representative and Lobbyist to the United States Congress and Senate / Tel: +1 (202) 517-1593 Public-Root Disclosure Documents: http://www.cynikal.net/~baptista/P-R/ Public-Root Discussion Forum: http://lair.lionpost.net/mailman/listinfo/pr-plan On 10/10/05, Peter Dambier <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > See with your own eyes: > > ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any . @a.public-root.net<http://a.public-root.net> > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 18588 > ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 15, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;. IN ANY > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > . 172800 IN SOA a.public-root.net <http://a.public-root.net>. > hostmaster.public-root.net.\ > 2005101006 43200 3600 1209600 14400 > . 172800 IN A 57.67.193.188 <http://57.67.193.188> > . 172800 IN NS k.public-root.net <http://k.public-root.net>. > . ... > . 172800 IN NS j.public-root.net <http://j.public-root.net>. > > ;; Query time: 81 msec > ;; SERVER: 205.189.71.2#53(a.public-root.net <http://a.public-root.net>) > ;; WHEN: Mon Oct 10 16:01:11 2005 > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Return-Path: <pr-plan-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > X-Flags: 0000 > Delivered-To: GMX delivery to peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Oct 2005 13:07:54 -0000 > Received: from LAIR.LIONPOST.NET <http://LAIR.LIONPOST.NET> (EHLO > LAIR.LIONPOST.NET <http://LAIR.LIONPOST.NET>) [199.5.157.32<http://199.5.157.32> > ] > by mx0.gmx.net <http://mx0.gmx.net> (mx072) with SMTP; 10 Oct 2005 > 15:07:54 +0200 > Received: from list.public-root.com <http://list.public-root.com> ([ > 199.5.157.32 <http://199.5.157.32>]) > by LAIR.LIONPOST.NET <http://LAIR.LIONPOST.NET> with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id > 1EOx3o-0000ny-HQ > for peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:47:20 -0400 > Received: from [206.254.45.93 <http://206.254.45.93>] (helo= > ruby.cynikal.net <http://ruby.cynikal.net> ident=qmremote) > by LAIR.LIONPOST.NET <http://LAIR.LIONPOST.NET> with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id > 1EOx3n-0000nt-5J > for pr-plan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:47:19 -0400 > Received: (qmail 9881 invoked by uid 1018); 10 Oct 2005 13:10:36 -0000 > Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@xxxxxxxxx) > by localhost with SMTP; 10 Oct 2005 13:10:36 -0000 > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:10:36 -0400 (EDT) > From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: pr-plan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0510100907100.9809@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Subject: [Pr-plan] BAD NEWS Re: IASON Root Domain Observatory (fwd) > X-BeenThere: pr-plan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 > Precedence: list > List-Id: <pr-plan.LAIR.LIONPOST.NET <http://pr-plan.LAIR.LIONPOST.NET>> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://LAIR.LIONPOST.NET/mailman/listinfo/pr-plan>, > <mailto:pr-plan-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://LAIR.LIONPOST.NET/pipermail/pr-plan> > List-Post: <mailto:pr-plan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > List-Help: <mailto:pr-plan-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <http://LAIR.LIONPOST.NET/mailman/listinfo/pr-plan>, > <mailto:pr-plan-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe> > Sender: pr-plan-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Errors-To: pr-plan-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) > X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam) > X-GMX-UID: /QI4Y8R1eSEkOtTJ43QhaXN1IGRvb4Di > > > Folks - got some bad news. The Public-Root has aquired an A record - yup > thats right - an A record. Which see below. Have tried to contact Paul > Scheepers - our absent minded root operator - who now hovers very close to > criminal conspiracy - to get him to fix this mistake. Noone is at home at > the inn. Not good. See appened message to Peter Dambier and our > public-root associates. > > I have no idea how a root will respond with an A record in it. Should be > interesting - but have no doubt a few things out in the wild have been > broken. > > regards > joe > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:03:04 -0400 (EDT) > From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: Peter Dambier <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: martijnburger@xxxxxxxxxx, cytrax@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, > marty.vanveluw@xxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: IASON Root Domain Observatory > > > Report this to NANOG and the IETF. Make sure you send them a copy of my > response and the headers of this message. I am holding UNIDT personally > responsible for this technical nightmare. > > regards > joe > > On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Peter Dambier wrote: > > > Kewl, '.' has got an A record :) > > > > ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> @a.public-root.net <http://a.public-root.net> . > axfr > > ;; global options: printcmd > > . 172800 IN SOA a.public-root.net <http://a.public-root.net>. > hostmaster.public-root.net <http://hostmaster.public-root.net>. 2005100906 > 43200 3600 1209600 14400 > > . 172800 IN A 57.67.193.188 <http://57.67.193.188> > > . 172800 IN NS a.public-root.net <http://a.public-root.net>. > > Joe Baptista, Official Public-Root Representative and Lobbyist to the > United States Congress and Senate / Tel: +1 (202) 517-1593 > > Public-Root Disclosure Documents: http://www.cynikal.net/~baptista/P-R/ > Public-Root Discussion Forum: > http://lair.lionpost.net/mailman/listinfo/pr-plan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pr-plan mailing list > Pr-plan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://LAIR.LIONPOST.NET/mailman/listinfo/pr-plan > > > -- > Peter and Karin Dambier > Public-Root > Graeffstrasse 14 > D-64646 Heppenheim > +49-6252-671788 (Telekom) > +49-179-108-3978 (O2 Genion) > +49-6252-750308 (VoIP: sipgate.de <http://sipgate.de>) > +1-360-448-1275 (VoIP: freeworldialup.com <http://freeworldialup.com>) > mail: peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://iason.site.voila.fr > http://www.kokoom.com/iason > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf