Beyond conflict

"Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> · Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:31:54 -0700

Title: Re: Anyone not in favor of a PR-Action against Jefsey Morfin 

What this debate is really 
telling me is that mailing lists are not a sufficient medium for carrying 
out extended Internet collaborations.

Its at times like this that I remember that 
the original reason I got into Internet Security was that I thought I needed 
some for my collaboration systems to be possible. 

If someone wants to be the next Tim 
Berners-Lee or Jimbo Wales there is an opportunity here.

From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx on 
behalf of Steven M. Bellovin
Sent: Thu 06/10/2005 5:12 
PM
To: Melinda Shore
Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx; 
iesg@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Anyone not in favor of a PR-Action against 
Jefsey Morfin 

In message <BF6B06A8.149F%mshore@xxxxxxxxx>, Melinda Shore 
writes:
>Messages like "I'm for this" or "I'm against this" seem to be 
taking
>the form of a vote, when it seems to me that what's probably 
more
>appropriate would be an attempt at persuasion.
>

Thank 
you.  I'm just as uncomfortable with the "let's sign a petition
against 
the PR action" as I am with the "let's sign a petitition for
it" 
postings.

I'm not opposed to PR actions in general; in fact, as a WG 
chair, I've
(successfully) asked my AD to suspend someone's posting 
privileges.
I've also had occasion to warn people that they face such 
sanctions,
most recently today.  If someone is being disruptive and 
won't stop,
after repeated warnings, I confess I don't see an 
alternative. 

Note that I am not expressing any opinions for or 
against any 
specific
suggestions.

        --Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

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