Spencer Dawkins wrote: > of course, the idea of the IESG "policing" anything that > happens on the Internet has to be kind of silly, given that > two consenting endpoints can send just about anything to > each other, especially above the IP layer, and our obvious > lack of any enforcement mechanism. Of course. OTOH these are RfCs submitted through the IETF, one of them intended to be a PS, and initiating what passes as an internal (= IETF, non-WG) "last call", and it was as ready for a proper "IETF last call" including Bruce's famous reviews and other obstacles as "we" (SPF) could get it. If it really covers 80% of AOL's inbound mail that's a rather big "experiment" if you ask me, and about 750,000 domains and an unknown (more than four) number of independent and (claiming to be) interoperable SPF implementations is also a bit more than a mere prototype. > if the IESG helps experiments avoid gratuitous conflicts, > that is wonderful - but for more than that, the IESG is > working very hard just to get the STANDARD protocols out :-) It's their privilege to decide about the status. It's my privilege to think that "experimental" for SPF was foolish. But that's beside the point for the senderid-appeal. Bye, Frank http://mid.gmane.org/42B4624D.5086@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf